Bill Parker

Joined

• started 20 topics
• posted 98 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by Bill Parker

• 
  46

  Let's have some honest answers

  by chappy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok all you ex's, be honest.

  do you ever have that little voice pop in your head and say "what if - just what if they're right?".

  it happens to me on occasion and i've been totally out for years.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Bill Parker

  My Honest answer is YES! I feel like that most of the time. Even though I can turn to the Bible and show that they are wrong in many instances. Still there is alway's that nagging doubt. That may be good or it may be bad. It's the confusion of it all that I don't like. Never actually knowing for certain so many things.
• 
  11

  Who "SITS DOWN IN JEHOVAH"S TEMPLE TO...

  by Bill Parker in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  who "sits down" in jehovah's temple today?

  many today believe that the one "sitting down in the temple of god today is a political entity.

  it is true that satan has used his army's to desolate god's temple at various times in history.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Bill Parker

  Logical:
  I get angered very easily these day's. I know that I shouldn't. Sometimes there are things that go on in our lives that cause great upheaval. That in turn leads to a buildup of anger. Then some poor slob comes along who hasn't really done all that much to you but he ends up taking the full force of that anger. What we end up doing is taking everything out on one indiviual who may not deserve all that anger. I just did that with a close friend of mine. Right now I am not feeling too good about myself. I guess that I am having one of those day's. I'll get over it I guess. If I have offended any on this board by the way I spoke to YOU KNOW I apologize. I'm very sorry. I just left a message on my friends answering machine telling him the same thing. Maybe none of it will go anywhere but at least Jehovah will know that I tried. Bill Parker
• 
  11

  Who "SITS DOWN IN JEHOVAH"S TEMPLE TO...

  by Bill Parker in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  who "sits down" in jehovah's temple today?

  many today believe that the one "sitting down in the temple of god today is a political entity.

  it is true that satan has used his army's to desolate god's temple at various times in history.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Bill Parker

  YOU KNOW (Doesn't Know a hell of a lot does he?}
  He was talking to those who were authorized to do so. No one today is.Perhaps you have not clued in to the conversation that Jesus had with His followers at Matthew 13:27-29 where He set forth the parable of the weeds and the wheat.... "Do you want US to go and weed them out" ... What did He tell them? Did He say "YES" I "authorize you to do that". Look at what He told them: "NO, lest in gathering the wild wheat {weeds resembling wheat} you root up the true wheat along with it" He as much as told them that "you cannot tell the difference" He said: "Let them grow together until the harvest; and at harvest time I will say to the reapers,Gather the darnell first and bind it in bundles to be burned but gather the wheat into my sanctuary" Who are the reapers? Look at verse 41 "The Son of Man will send forth His Angels and THEY will gather out of His kingdom all causes of offense... and all who do iniquity and act wickedly" Everything that I presented to you was scripturally based and you have the audacity to call it a lie? Jesus told them "NO" what part of "NO" don't you uinderstand? Does it really take a rocket scientist to figure that out? The clean-up of the congregations is given to Christ Jesus to do. Are you going to continue to usurp His Headship by following the dictates of "oppressive wolves? Acts 20:29,30 That of course is your business. You are the one who will lose his life if you continue with this disfgellowshipping practice with it's unscriptural marking and shunning. Don't forget somewhere down the line they will get to you too. Your marriage may be destroyed,your family may be split up, your friends will not speak to you. How do you think that you will feel then? It will be an entirely different ball game then will it not? I do not appreciate a moron like you calling me a liar. If you were nose to nose with me you would not have the guts to say that to my face. I would take that kind of insulting remark as a slap in the face. You called all of the Bible writers liars by calling me one because I was using what the Bible said about the matter to set you straight. What actually has occured here is something the Bible foretold: Look at Jeremiah 5:14 ... " Behold I am making my word's in your mouth a fire and these people will be pieces of wood and it will devour them"... What I have on my hands now is a smouldering log. But there is even more. Look at Jeremiah 23:29 ... "Is not my word like fire {that consumes all those that cannot endure the test}? and like a hammer that breaks in pieces the rock {of most stubborn resistance}"
  I have used that "Hammer" to smash to pieces your ungodly practice of disfellowshipping with it's equally unscriptural marking and shunning practice. To say the least a viscious practice at that! Like the smouldering log that you are you will eventually simply burn up and blow away in the wind. By the way why don't you do that now?
• 
  11

  Who "SITS DOWN IN JEHOVAH"S TEMPLE TO...

  by Bill Parker in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  who "sits down" in jehovah's temple today?

  many today believe that the one "sitting down in the temple of god today is a political entity.

  it is true that satan has used his army's to desolate god's temple at various times in history.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Bill Parker

  Another point for "YOU KNOW"
  You made reference to the scripture at 1Corinthians 5:5 In the Amplified Bible it reads thusly: "YOU are to deliver this man over to Satan for physical discipline {to destroy carnel lusts which prompted him to incest},that {his} spirit may {yet} be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.Now go to verse 13 of that same chapter ..."Drive out that wicked one from among you {expell him from your church}
  Now at first glance it would look like the difellowshipping arrangement has God's blessing today. But does it really? To whom were these statements addressed and why? Where they not addressed to those who were able to read the heart therefore they could judge with righteous judgment in imitation of their master.Read Isaiah 11:3,4 " and He shall not judge by the sight of his eye's neither decide by the hearing of His ears but with righteousness and justice shall he judge the poor and decide with fairness for the meek the poor and the downtrodden of the earth. That is how first century christians did judging. The judgment was fair and just it was as though God Himself had done the judging. IT was that way because they and only they could read the heart. More important they were under command by Jehovah to do that.Their judgment at that time was "righteous judgment" What is going on today in the world wide Elder arrangment is judgment that is done solely on the basis of what is seen by the eye's and heard by the ear's. IT is impossible for these so called Elders to read the heart's of anyone today. More important the matter of judging has not been given into their hands. For the reason that they cannot read the heart. Only the Messiah can and will do that judging when Jehovah commands Him to. Only the "Man of Lawlessness" and his followers would take that privellege to themselves. They "SIT DOWN IN THE TEMPLE OF GOD PROFESSING TO BE GOD" In judging others now while not being under command to do so they run ahead of Jehovah and His APPOINTED JUDGE. Those first century christians had the gifts of the spirit. Jehovah had endowed them with special abilities,as you already know. If you look at Acts 5:1-11 it shows that the Apostle Peter could read the hearts of Ananias and Sapphira. "Why has Satan filled your heart that you should lie to and attempt to deceive the Holy Spirit" ... Jehovah had revealed to Peter that they had in fact lied. Without that special power Peter would not have been able to do that. Hence he would not have been able to "judge with righteous judgment" as commanded by Christ Jesus! John 7:24 That is why you or I or anyone else today should not be involved in judging anyone else. We cannot read the heart. So we are not able to correctly judge anyone especially so because we also have weaknesses and frailties that we do not reveal to everyone else. Yes we all commit sins that might warrent disfellowshipping. The one who say's "he does not sin is a liar and the truth is not in him" Up this point your BIble knowledge is sadly lacking and it shows when your fingers touch your keyboard. What I would like to know is that lack of knowledge due to genuine cause or is it because you will support those Elders and the Society at any cost because you are afraid that what you have caused to come upon others will come upon you if you dare to disagree with them. Remember you are under command to "TEST THE INMSPIRED EXPRESSION " How much more so should you "TEST" the one that isn't inspired? It takes a lot of sand to do that. Have you got it?
• 
  11

  Who "SITS DOWN IN JEHOVAH"S TEMPLE TO...

  by Bill Parker in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  who "sits down" in jehovah's temple today?

  many today believe that the one "sitting down in the temple of god today is a political entity.

  it is true that satan has used his army's to desolate god's temple at various times in history.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Bill Parker

  It doesn't matter what any individual is guilty of. NO MAN TODAY HAS BEEN APPOINTED BY JEHOVAGH TO CLEAN UP THE CONGREGATIONS. That is something reserved for the Messiah to do. You are the one who is off base in your thinking.
• 
  9

  Can I get some help up in heya

  by bboyneko in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i recieved the following emails, anyone wanna help write a response?

  i always write responses i just wanna see some other ways you guys respond to these typical jw inquries.. i have three questions for you!

  1- it seems to me by your comments that you are destroying the jw name why?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Bill Parker

  Hi bboynecko:
  I am looking at this fellows 3 questions. Who's destroying the name of Jehovah's Witnesses? Us? First we are told by "INSPIRED" PROPHETS of GOD to "TEST the inspired expression" 1 John 4:1 You dare to "TEST" any of the teachings of the Society and your history. We are told that you MUST ACCEPT all of their teachings without question. If you do not there is a judicial meeting. If you do not change your tune out you go. So here we have some people who do as Jehovah has commanded,find some thing wrong and then have the intestinal fortitude to disagree. There gone! But wait a minute that is what Jehovah wanted them to do. They were following the dictates of their own conscience. Who's destroying their name? They are doing that all by themselves. We just have to sit back and watch! Isn't that enough to make anybody give up? As to his third question. Boy! He wants to be damn careful making statements like "this is the great Tribulation" Does he believe that because the twin towers were blown up this is it? What about Hiroshima and Negasaki? We aren't just talking two buildings were talking to entire cities. What about the the terrible terror of W.W.1 and W.W.2 Rivers of blood were poured out. The Society once taught that the great tribulation began in 1914. Because that seemed to harmonize so closely with the Bible I thought that that teaching was carved in stone. I even while my wife was with me made the statement that I believed the great tribulation started in 1914. Keep in mind that is what the Society taught me. She told me that "I was on an apostate course." So if I was then so was the Society who taught me that. So you see by there ever changing teachings they create problems right within the family arrangment. What about their teaching that the organization is "OUR MOTHER" That's funny I thought that Paul said that "Jerusalam ABOVE is our Mother" He as one of the annointed class never claimed to be anyone's Mother. He said he was only one of the children of that heavenly woman. HE knew that he had to "Prove Faithful to Death" in order to bear that designation. That would be AFTER he had been resurrected to heavenly life.If you dared to question that erronious teaching you would be kicked out. There are destroying there own name even worse they bring great reproach on the devine name by their oppressive tactics Tell him to tell the Elders that he believes the great tribulation has started and he is teaching that to others. Guess where he will be after that. Having coffee with us at the APOSTOFEST.
• 
  11

  Who "SITS DOWN IN JEHOVAH"S TEMPLE TO...

  by Bill Parker in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  who "sits down" in jehovah's temple today?

  many today believe that the one "sitting down in the temple of god today is a political entity.

  it is true that satan has used his army's to desolate god's temple at various times in history.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Bill Parker

  WHO "SITS DOWN" IN JEHOVAH'S TEMPLE TODAY?

  Many today believe that the one "Sitting Down In the Temple of God today is a Political entity. It is true that Satan has used his army's to desolate God's Temple at various times in history. He allowed them to set up their idolotrous emblems right within His Temple.. Today that is impossible! There is no visible Temple building to surround and attack as there has been in the past. The Temple today is a spiritual Temple made of the remnant of the annointed Brothers of Christ.These one's are scattered all over the earth now. The political governments are not even aware of who they really are. The only way one can "Sit Down" in that Temple today is by close association with those one's. Only the false prophets "who come to them in sheeps clothing" could do that. So the one Paul was talking about in 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12 are the one's who claim to be on equal footing with the Temple Class these are a religious entity made up of False Prophets. They are not a political entity. It is Satan now who "goes off to wage war with the remaining one's of the woman's seed" and he is doing that by infiltrating Jehovah's Temple Class.Placing his ministers in there to slowly erode the pure worship of Jehovah through the mean spirited actions of his minions. He is attacking now right from within the true congregation of Jehovah's worshippers. Anyone who doubts that should take a serious look at the record number of people who have been disfellowshipped each year The marking and shunning practices are Satan's weapons of war now because it breaks the spirit and hearts of those subjected to it In point of fact it is slowly desolating God's Temple.Let that Organization continue long enough and there will be no one left worshipping Jehovah. That is Satan's final goal! Up to now he is doing well isn't he?
• 
  34

  Please Help: Disfellowshipping--Scriptural View

  by GinnyTosken in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm hoping you all can help.. an active jehovah's witness joined us in chat tonight and was dismayed that this site slams witnesses for trying to follow the bible in matters such as disfellowshipping.

  this chatter feels that many people here complain about the society's policies without offering evidence that the policies are without scriptural backing.. i must be at work very early monday morning, so i could not stay in chat as long as i wished.

  i told the chatter i would start this thread so that s/he could gather information and opinions from several sources.. in chat i was trying to present a point that i remembered from in search of christian freedom, about how disfellowshipping was meant to be a personal choice, not a decision forced on the congregation by a small committee.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Bill Parker

  Hi Ginny:
  This is not to push an article that I already have on the page. There is information within that article that completely covers the Disfellowshipping practice. IT is an article titled "Apostasy". It is 22 pages long! A very long read I know. But all of the scriptural information that you need is there.IT shows that it is no man's business today to remove individuals from the congregation. IT is Jehovah's appointed Judge that looks after the cleaning up of the congregations. In brief recall the scripture at Matthew 13:27-30 They asked Him "do yo want US to go and weed them out" Look at what he told them! "NO,lest in gathering the wild wheat {weeds} you root up the {true} wheat along with it" He told them "Let the grow together until the harvest;and at harvest time I will say to the reapers [ANGELS} Gather the darnel first and bind it in bundles to be burned, but gather the wheat into my granary" Verse 41 of that same chapter shows you who actually does that work. "The Son of Man will send forth his angels THEY will gather out of His kingdom all causes of offence... and all who do iniquity and act wickedly" First century christians were empowered by Jehovah to read the heart. That is evident by reading Acts 5:1-11.No man today is able to look into the heart so no man can accurately judge another man. Why would one sinner be looking at another to judge him anyway?" "All have sinned" Jesus now is Jehovah's appointed Judge. John 5:22. Jehovah has been seated in His heavenly court since "1914" Evidence for and against is being gathered. That court is still in session. NO verdict has as yet been rendered. When it has then the clean up will begin. As it is done now it is running ahead of Jehovah Himself and also His appointed Judge to remove anyone from the congregations. They will pay dearly for what they have done to families- marriages and individuals. Sooner or later we reap what we sow.
• 
  86

  Submit your favorite quote!

  by Spartacus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when a difficulty is deep and painful, the triumph is glorious and jubilant.. -spartacus 2001

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Bill Parker

  I can't remember who said this now maybe someone out there will. Thinking about the U.N. scandle. It came to mind: "Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we pratice to deceive" How fitting!
• 
  1

  WTS deceived by "Satan" for decades

  by Norm in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  c. t. russell gods mouthpiece, faithful and discreet slave was completely duped by satan regarding the jews and israel.

  even j. f. booze rutherford was duped for many years, in spite of his extremely close relationship with jehovah.

  in all those years none of these jehovahs chosen ones was able to see through the obvious deception.

  1. 
• 

  Bill Parker

  Hi Norm!
  You have hit the nail rigtht squarly on the head! You have even given me information that I was not aware of. Thank you for that! I like to call the Watchtower Society "Satan's Work of Art" HIs "Masterful Deception." It is his last kick at the can as it were.He must have known by the very act of his being put out of heaven that it was now Jehovah's time to begin gathering the one's who would accept only the truth. This is where Jesus statement at Matthew 24:24 fits in nicely. In the Revelation by John he is seen "Standing before the woman who was about to give birth" ...Revelation 12:7-17 He is enraged with the woman and goes off to wage war with the remaining one's of her seed. IT is the composite "Man of Lawlessness" that now takes his seat in the Temple of God the "Anti-Christ" For modern day Bible scholars this is the "Abomination of Desolation Standing in the Holy Place" Abomination of itself we know is not a person but rather how Jehovah views this person. And it is his unscriptural activity that desolates God's Temple. The end results of this activity is now very visible for all to see in the number who have been disfellowshipped branded Apostate and marked and shunned. All designed to turn people away from worshipping Jehovah. IT works well doesn't it?. IT all looks like it has God's backing! We now know that it doesn't. Don't we! Thanks again. For awhile I thought I was on the wrong track. You have shown me that I am not. Thanks again. Bill Parker